Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 106

01/20/2010 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:02:48 AM Start
08:03:48 AM Overview: Department of Education and Early Development: Graduation Rate Working Group; Advisory Programs; Asd Native Tutor Program
09:31:22 AM HB206
09:58:18 AM OVERVIEW:GRADUATIONRATEWORKINGGROUP
10:07:18 AM Adjourn
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9:31:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  206, "An  Act establishing  a career  assessment                                                               
requirement  in public  schools;  and  relating to  postsecondary                                                               
courses for secondary school students."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of Education and Early  Development, explained that HB
206 would  require a  second mandatory  enrollment count,  for 20                                                               
days,  in  the month  of  February.    Under the  old  foundation                                                               
program an  optional count could  be taken in February,  but that                                                               
was  only for  districts that  had increases  in enrollment.   He                                                               
reported  that this  did  not  happen very  often  in the  larger                                                               
districts, but  did impact smaller  districts.  In any  year, the                                                               
department  might have  between three  to six  districts applying                                                               
for this optional  count period.  The proposed  bill requires two                                                               
count  periods of  20  days  each, one  in  February  and one  in                                                               
October, and  guarantees that districts  are funded based  on the                                                               
prior year  count.   The funding  for the  current year  would be                                                               
based on the two counts from  the prior fiscal year; a guaranteed                                                               
minimum level  of funding.   During the current school  year, the                                                               
October count  will be  taken, averaged with  the count  from the                                                               
previous  February, and  if  the count  has  increased a  funding                                                               
benefit will  be realized  to reflect the  rise in  average daily                                                               
membership (ADM).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON asked whether formula  funding is currently based on                                                               
an  estimate  of  projected enrollment  without  considering  the                                                               
previous year counts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS clarified  that funding is based solely  on the current                                                               
year count, as  taken during the 20 day count  period in October.                                                               
Projections are received  from school districts that  are used to                                                               
build the  department's budget, but  it does not impact  how much                                                               
money a district receives.   District funding levels are based on                                                               
one twelfth  of what  they received  in the  prior year,  for the                                                               
first nine  months, then the  final three months are  adjusted in                                                               
accordance with  the current year  count.   One of the  issues is                                                               
that,  with  only  one  count  required,  schools  may  focus  on                                                               
retaining students just  through that period.  Also,  a number of                                                               
senior students  may graduate mid-term,  but schools  are staffed                                                               
based on autumn numbers, not on  how many students they expect to                                                               
have in the spring.   Mr. Jeans reported that Commissioner LeDoux                                                               
suggests a  longer count period  of perhaps three  months, basing                                                               
the  funding  on  previous  year  counts,  and  a  provision  for                                                               
district's  to demonstrate  a need  due to  increased enrollment.                                                               
As proposed, HB  206 requires the averaging of  two counts, which                                                               
may  cause some  confusion.   However, the  bill does  retain the                                                               
basic  concept to  allow appropriate  budgeting and  a means  for                                                               
addressing an increase of enrollment, he opined.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:36:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  stated his  understanding that  Commissioner LeDoux                                                               
would be  interested in a five  month count period.   He asked if                                                               
the  average   would  be  derived  from   the  daily  attendance,                                                               
membership, or enrollment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.   JEANS  explained   that   enrollment   is  different   than                                                               
attendance,   and  attendance   is  different   from  membership.                                                               
Typically enrollment is  a one day snapshot of  how many students                                                               
are  enrolled in  each  grade  and program.    The average  daily                                                               
attendance  (ADA)  is  exactly  that:    how  many  students  are                                                               
attending  school, on  average, on  a daily  basis.   The average                                                               
daily membership (ADM) represents  how many students are enrolled                                                               
in  the school  district, not  necessarily attending  on a  given                                                               
day.  The  current funding formula uses the ADM,  based on the 20                                                               
day  count period.   He  explained that  the daily  attendance is                                                               
totaled for the 20 day period,  divided back by 20 and the number                                                               
arrived at represents  the ADM.  Thus, a student  who is enrolled                                                               
for  10 days,  during  that  period, would  count  as  half of  a                                                               
student.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON clarified that  the alternatives, which Commissioner                                                               
LeDoux discussed, were based on the ADM.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS confirmed the chairman's  understanding and pointed out                                                               
that  the  commissioner was  also  considering  having the  count                                                               
occur over  a longer  period of time,  3-5 months,  utilizing the                                                               
same process  that is  now in place.   Additionally,  the current                                                               
year funding  would be based  on the previous year's  count, with                                                               
the possibility to compensate for increased numbers.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:38:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH asked for clarity  on the proposed time frame                                                               
to establish the ADM.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  reviewed the  count schedule  as previously  laid out.                                                               
Additionally,  he reiterated  reasons  for  changing the  current                                                               
system:   being able to  utilize the  prior year count  will help                                                               
district's during the budgeting  process, knowing exactly what to                                                               
expect  for  their budget,  and  also  being  able to  receive  a                                                               
current year benefit should enrollment increase.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:39:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON   stated  that  the  committee   is  interested  in                                                               
statutory  mechanisms to  encourage retention  of students.   The                                                               
count period change may stimulate  districts to eliminate factors                                                               
resulting  in   push-outs,  or  instituting  other   measures  to                                                               
increase the retention rate of  student's throughout high school.                                                               
The presumption is for this  change to increase graduation rates.                                                               
When only one count period occurs,  he opined, there may not be a                                                               
concerted effort to help students continue throughout the year.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:40:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  indicated  that  some  families  move                                                               
during the school year, and  she expressed her interest to ensure                                                               
that  a  district  is  not  penalized  when  this  occurs.    She                                                               
addressed  the handout  and read:   "Reduction  in the  spring is                                                               
based on  the drop-out rates  from 2008 and  2009, as if  it were                                                               
5.2 percent."   She asked  whether this legislation will  make an                                                               
incentive  strong enough  for the  schools to  make an  effort to                                                               
retain  students,  particularly problem  students.    Is there  a                                                               
possible  fix  for  the numbers  representing  the  students  who                                                               
graduate mid-year, she asked.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  addressed the dropout  rate first, explaining  that it                                                               
was  calculated using  the number  of students  from the  October                                                               
count and establishing  the number of students  still enrolled at                                                               
the beginning  of summer.  The  rate arrived at was  5.2 percent,                                                               
and  has  been  declining, however  it  represents  approximately                                                               
3,000  students  statewide.     Whatever  means  is  adopted,  to                                                               
establish  the  ADM  in  schools,  school  budgets  and  district                                                               
efforts of retaining  students will be effected.   He opined that                                                               
changing the  count method will  not solve the  drop-out problem,                                                               
but it will exert financial  pressure on schools to keep students                                                               
engaged.  Changing  the count period will result  in less funding                                                               
than  districts  are accustomed  to  receiving.   To  offset  the                                                               
impact that  this type  of count/budget change  will have  in the                                                               
first  couple of  years, consideration  for  increasing the  base                                                               
student  allocation rate  is in  order.   The  increase would  be                                                               
important as a means to  incentivize districts, not penalize them                                                               
with a budget cut.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:44:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  summarized that  when students  move away  a school                                                               
would  experience a  decline in  enrollment, but  the funding  is                                                               
already in  place.   Further, if enrollment  were to  increase in                                                               
the course  of the  year, a  budget adjustment  would be  made to                                                               
account for the additional numbers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  confirmed that  if enrollment  has declined,  a budget                                                               
based on previous  year counts, will provide a one  year delay to                                                               
adjust a schools budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:45:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ expressed her  support for basing funding on                                                               
previous  year  counts,  noting  the  benefit  to  the  budgeting                                                               
process.   However, a converse impact  of a second count,  due to                                                               
the  natural ebb  and flow  of  a student  population, may  prove                                                               
problematic.  She directed attention  to the committee packet and                                                               
the  memo  received from  the  Southeast  Island School  District                                                               
indicating  annual  number  fluctuations  that  would  jeopardize                                                               
their future funding, under the proposed scenario.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS agreed  and said  that  anything done  outside of  the                                                               
current funding count period will  have the largest effect on the                                                               
state's smallest  schools, and  it may be  difficult for  some to                                                               
survive.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER   asked   for  clarity   on   the   cost                                                               
implications for  the state's  school districts  when considering                                                               
an ADM averaged over a five  month count period versus two 20 day                                                               
counts.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS responded  that  there  may not  be  a big  difference                                                               
between the two  resulting numbers, but when the  count period is                                                               
expanded, he said he believes lower counts will be the result.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:48:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON advised  that at the next  regular committee meeting                                                               
a  longitudinal   study,  undertaken  by  the   Anchorage  School                                                               
District,  will be  presented.    The data  will  indicate how  a                                                               
student  who  drops-out  will probably  drop-out  multiple  times                                                               
throughout their high  school career; very few  students exit the                                                               
system without  returning.   Schools need  to be  incentivized to                                                               
keep  these students  engaged, he  opined.   Situations vary,  he                                                               
commented,   and   the   same   student   may   be   dropping-out                                                               
continuously, the  family may  be away  fishing each  year during                                                               
the count  period, or students  may enroll in another  school for                                                               
part of the school year.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:51:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS cautioned  that perceptions may be skewed,  and what is                                                               
actually happening  may be  confused with what  is thought  to be                                                               
occurring.   Historical data does  not indicate huge  influxes of                                                               
population,  following  a student  count  period,  that would  be                                                               
detrimental to  a district.   The  smallest schools  are effected                                                               
when,  for  instance,  a  family  with  six  students  relocates,                                                               
representing a  significant population  change.  Changes  of this                                                               
type  are  anomalies,   not  the  norm.     Situations  do  arise                                                               
routinely,   he  reported,   such   as   students  leaving   home                                                               
correspondence  programs  and enrolling  in  a  brick and  mortar                                                               
school.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON   asked  for  the   department's  official                                                               
position  on HB  206.   The testimony  provided today  appears to                                                               
conflict, he noted, with the  commissioner suggesting a lengthier                                                               
count  period and  the director  cautioning against  changing the                                                               
status quo.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  clarified that the  most important aspect is,  and the                                                               
commissioner agrees,  that funding be  based on the  prior year's                                                               
count,  giving the  districts  a guaranteed  base,  and the  bill                                                               
provides this  measure.  There  are varying methods  for arriving                                                               
at the ADM, and the  commissioner prefers a count period extended                                                               
beyond the current 20 days.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON maintained  his  inquiry  for an  official                                                               
departmental position on HB 206.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  refrained  from   expressing  an  official  position,                                                               
pending further discussion with the commissioner.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:55:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  asked whether  the  longer  count period  requires                                                               
implementing a new administrative process,  or if it utilizes the                                                               
current attendance methods and information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS confirmed that HB  206 alters the count period process,                                                               
but  the  procedures  are  in  place  and  remain  the  same  for                                                               
obtaining the ADM.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  welcomed comment from  the districts  regarding the                                                               
advantages of the different procedures.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:56:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH asked  if  the economy  of  scale should  be                                                               
taken into account, because of the  effect it may have on smaller                                                               
schools.   Perhaps the means  for funding smaller  schools should                                                               
be reconsidered, he opined.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  said that it  is not  his intent to  suggest adjusting                                                               
the  school  size  table,  but  to  caution  the  committee  that                                                               
extending  the count  period, many  districts  will experience  a                                                               
drop in their ADM count, and  some schools will be seeking a form                                                               
of relief.   The apparent means to offset such  a scenario, is an                                                               
increase in the base student allocation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:58:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  stated that  the bill would  be held  for continued                                                               
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^#Overview:  Graduation Rate Working Group                                                                                    
            Overview:  Graduation Rate Working Group                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
9:58:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL  WATKINS,  Principal,  Kodiak   High  School,  advised  that                                                               
facility conditions are a major  push-out factor.  Nationwide, 50                                                               
percent  of  the schools  have  been  identified as  having  sick                                                               
building   syndrome.     Health  research   indicates  a   direct                                                               
correlating  influence  of  these  buildings  on  teenagers  with                                                               
existing conditions such  as asthma.  Sick  building syndrome has                                                               
been  thoroughly researched  and the  impacts it  has on  student                                                               
attendance,  and  achievement  levels.   He  offered  to  provide                                                               
additional  information on  this  topic to  the  committee.   The                                                               
advisory  program was  implemented two  years ago  in the  Kodiak                                                               
schools, and this  year students are meeting  with their advisory                                                               
teacher  once a  week.    The expectation  is  to increase  these                                                               
contacts to  a daily basis.   Effectiveness data on  the advisory                                                               
program is being collected via  student surveys, GPA comparisons,                                                               
attendance  records, drop-out  rates, number  of students  taking                                                               
college entry  or work-force readiness exams,  number of students                                                               
graduating with an  established plan, and the  number of students                                                               
entering high school  with a class course and  post graduate plan                                                               
in  place.    He  touted  the importance  of  the  middle  school                                                               
advisory  program   for  helping  the  students   make  a  smooth                                                               
transition into high  school, and to guide them  to the necessary                                                               
course  work for  meeting their  goals.   The advisor  expects to                                                               
remain  with a  student for  the four  year duration,  building a                                                               
meaningful relationship.   He reported that Kodiak  has a teacher                                                               
retention rate averaging  95 percent.  The  new assessment tools,                                                               
particularly Key  Train and  WorkKeys, are  being utilized.   The                                                               
advantage of  the WorkKeys program  has been the  flexibility for                                                               
testing, and individual motivational  benefits that come from the                                                               
instant  test results,  allowing a  student to  target curriculum                                                               
needs,  and resulting  in increased  student retention.   Another                                                               
key has been  providing each student with a lap  top computer for                                                               
ease  of  viewing the  Alaska  Career  Information System  (ACIS)                                                               
website,  where  the  students  build  their  career  portfolios.                                                               
Regarding  the question  of whether  to  restrict activities,  he                                                               
stated opposition  to the four  strikes and you're  out approach.                                                               
Activities  are sometimes  the only  carrot that  can be  used to                                                               
engage a  student and  the possibility should  not be  taken away                                                               
regardless  of   drug/alcohol/tobacco  abuse.     Also,  activity                                                               
involvement provides a  student with an additional  adult to help                                                               
guide them  and keep them  engaged and  connected.  He  said that                                                               
the  school  believes  in  the  power of  five:    a  5:1  ratio,                                                               
adult/coach to student in need, for creating success.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:06:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON solicited further comments on the bills in                                                                         
question, and thanked the day's participants.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:07:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the                                                                       
Department of Education and Early Development meeting was                                                                       
adjourned at 10:07 a.m.                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS HB 206 (EDC) April 22 workdraft.pdf HEDC 1/20/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/29/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 3/31/2010 8:00:00 AM
HB 206
HB206_CountChart.xlsx HEDC 1/20/2010 8:00:00 AM
HEDC 2/1/2010 8:00:00 AM
HB 206
Raising a Graduate poster.pdf HEDC 1/20/2010 8:00:00 AM
Ideas for Eliminating Pushouts (2).doc HEDC 1/20/2010 8:00:00 AM
Tutors work to boost Native students.docx HEDC 1/20/2010 8:00:00 AM